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Harmony in Dharma / Origin of TONAL SYSTEM

Posted in Art, Buddhism, Dharma, Fun to read :-D, Music, Natural Harmony, Order of Universe, Who is Yoshizen by yoshizen on January 14, 2010

When I was small, long before the school, I made the most Fundamental discovery,

Fundamental Element of the matter is the ASH “- – – – that’s what I thought.   Though, nobody was

impressed, despite this is the unquestionable FACT.    Look,  To burn anything, Wood, Grass, Coal, Charcoal,

Fish bone, Paper, Cotton, Woolly things —— what ever they are, all burn to the ASH.

And even burn  ASH  further,  still it  remains as the ASH. —— This is the Truth, isn’t it ?

But I only got the words ” Silly boy ”  without any explanation.

(World is twisted,  they are blind and rotten ! ! !   😦  )


Another question which captured me ——in fact many years, was “Why all the music were composed

in the same Do, Re, Mi, Fa  scale, and can be played on the same simple instrument ? ? ?”

On that time, one of my pass time was to listen the radio VOA ( Voice of America Far-East Netwok/

American propaganda, aiming to the communist Russia and China ) and listening latest American

Hit-Chart.  And I was writing down the short passage of each tune to music score.

( Regardless,  whether the tune is A or C—– the matter is just relative scale of the note )

( And this interest led me start to listen many ethnic, such as Indian Music — It was the time of Ravi Shankar)


German Sociologist  Max Weber wrote a book about the evolution of the music scale,

from  Natural Tonal Scale to Equi-distant Tonal Scale ——– etc, kept my question alive and so on.

Many years later, when I needed to design electronic tone generator,  and while watching the frequency

table of music tones, such as  A=440 Hz,  E=660 Hz  etc—— I realized, all the tones in the music scale

are having 1:1.5 ratio, which can create Pentatonic easily. ( This is why Pentatonic is so common in

any folk cultures in the world )

1 :1.5 ratio mean, if you shorten the length of the String  ( if it was C / Do ) to 2/3rd,

the tone become 1.5 times higher to the 5th (E / So) and so on.

(Press a string and play, if the shorter side sound octave higher than the other side, it’s the 2/3rd point)

In short, Do (524 Hz)—> So (786 Hz)—> Re (1179/ Octave high of  589 Hz)—> Ra (880/ 440 Hz)

—> Mi (660 Hz) ( Save, few Hz deviation,  which wouldn’t  make audible differences)

Here all the Pentatonic Notes of  Do, Re, Mi, So, Ra  were created. ! ! !

——–Much more interesting Phenomena is, those tones are not human invention.

They are naturally existing.

All the materials vibrates.  (If you hit, they makes a sound, except shock absorbing soft material)

They vibrate not only in its fundamental frequency, but also all the harmonic frequencies of x2, x3, x4, x5 etc.

(Though even number of the harmonics are in the Octave, and its sound is indistinguishable.)

So that, those odd numbered harmonics are   524 Hz (C / Do) x3 /2 = 784 (G / So),     x 5 / 4 = 654 (E / Mi),

x7 / 8 = 457 (A / Ra),    x9 / 8 = 588 (D / Re) —-> Do, Re, Mi, So, Ra —– Pentatonic in the Nature. ! ! !

This is the reason why the  Dominant Harmony is [ Do, Mi, So ],  as they are naturally there, and

sounding in perfect Harmony.


The Nature having such amazing structure,  Isn’t this the beauty of the Dharma and the Rules within ?

——–When I realized this, I thought ” Eureka ” then noticed, this is what Pythagoras found 3000 years ago.

My brain was 3000 years slow.

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  1. LalmMyslels said, on January 14, 2010 at 14:47

    Just testing to see if your say discuss fuctinon works, deposit doesnt!

    • yoshizen said, on January 14, 2010 at 15:14

      To Lalm
      I couldn’t see what your question is, and in relation to what. ? ? ?
      ( This post is about naturally existing Tonal Harmony)
      —– or is it a machine generated automatic message (Spam)
      just lure someone to click your name ? 😀

  2. Me said, on January 15, 2010 at 10:05

    Good points, I think I will definitely subscribe! I’ll go and read some more! What do you see the future of this being?

    • yoshizen said, on January 15, 2010 at 21:54

      Glad, you see the point.
      Another day I’ve put a comment to someone who is running quite beautiful Buddhist’s
      Eco-site. I’ve posted the issue of the stark choice, soon or later we are going to face,
      a conflict of Micro (personal ) human right and the Macro (global issue, the human
      as the Species ) ——— though it was blocked.
      So-called nice people don’t want to see harsh reality, in order to keep his smile.
      ( And keep pretending ” I’m a peaceful Buddhist ” —– though our back is burning)
      —— I’m going to discuss it, here in near future.

      • yoshizen said, on December 7, 2010 at 11:29

        This post said to have become a hard to find legend, among the musicians.
        As even a musician didn’t know such harmony was ever existed.
        So, well spotted.
        Thanks to visit here.

  3. Marian Solomon said, on December 7, 2010 at 09:02

    hello thanks for the reading.

    • yoshizen said, on December 7, 2010 at 11:35

      Well spotted.
      This post said to have become a hard to find legend among musicians.
      Since even the musicians didn’t know such harmony is ever existing.
      Thanks to visit here.

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    […] Prof; Walcha talked about a tour of Japan and his friend, Musicologist Keisei Sakka.   And I had happened to attend a special  lecture by Prof; Sakka about the evolution of  Music Tonal System as a part of my Sociological study.  ( Tonal System evolved under the Christian monastic life and their devotion to perfect it ) —– (I wrote about how Natural Tonal System was created.) […]

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